{"id":3511,"date":"2022-03-17T05:33:04","date_gmt":"2022-03-17T11:33:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/farmshepherds.com\/?p=3511"},"modified":"2022-03-17T05:35:33","modified_gmt":"2022-03-17T11:35:33","slug":"they-are-not-the-same","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/farmshepherds.com\/index.php\/2022\/03\/17\/they-are-not-the-same\/","title":{"rendered":"They Are Not the Same"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>This article was originally published in Dog World Magazine of April 1952<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Could you please give me the following information? Why do you have your English Shepherds and border collies advertised in the same ad column? Are they the same kind of dog? And is the border collie sometimes short-tailed? Are the short-tailed shepherd and the border collie the same dog? Please write the answers to the questions back to me. &#8212; Charles Gross, Box 22 Grafton, Nebr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ANSWER \u2013 This reader is very much in order, for it is high time that correct and clear distinction be made among several dogs in this group.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The group includes the border collie, the English shepherd and the farmer\u2019s collie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The BORDER COLLIE is true to type, usually is black with white markings, varies in size from 30 to 40 lbs., and is registered by the North American Sheepdog Society, Wooster, OH.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The ENGLISH SHEPHERD is limited to black with tan markings, and within the last few years has come into great popularity. It is registered by the English Shepherd Club of America, Quinlan, TX.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Thus far, this club has closed the books to dogs of other color or markings. 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