{"id":3041,"date":"2021-08-31T16:53:21","date_gmt":"2021-08-31T22:53:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/farmshepherds.com\/?p=3041"},"modified":"2021-09-01T07:29:50","modified_gmt":"2021-09-01T13:29:50","slug":"identifying-an-old-fashioned-black-and-tan-english-shepherd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/farmshepherds.com\/index.php\/2021\/08\/31\/identifying-an-old-fashioned-black-and-tan-english-shepherd\/","title":{"rendered":"Identifying an Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In your search for an Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd, you may come across a breeder who claims to have black and tans. Be aware that some breeders will inappropriately use &#8220;black and tan&#8221; as a marketing term. So, how can you tell the difference between someone who&#8217;s just trying sell you a dog and the real thing?  There are three investigations we can use to ascertain if a dog is an Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">1 The first way you can tell is by appearance and behavior. To know what you&#8217;re looking for, familiarize yourself with the bloodline standard. This same standard of the Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd has been around, unchanged, for decades.  Here it is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/obtesa.com\/standard\/\">https:\/\/obtesa.com\/standard\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">2 The second way to classify and Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd is by pedigree. The preferred Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd has nothing but black and tan dogs is his or her pedigree. Ideally, the pedigree will all he way back black and tan dogs who were registered with the IESR<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_1');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_1');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_1\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[1]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_1\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">International English Shepherd Registry<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_1').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_1', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script> or the ARF<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_2');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_2');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_2\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[2]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_2\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">Animal Research Foundation<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_2').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_2', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script>. There are exceptions. For example, an ancestor 3 generations back who was black and white, so long as all the ancestors since are demonstrably Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherds. Conversely, if a dog&#8217;s sire or dam is not a black and tan, that is a composite dog. Not an Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd. In fairness, this is not a cut-and-dried investigation. I personally feel that an Old-fashioned Black and Tan&#8217;s three generation pedigree should be at least 7\/8 black and tan. But some of my respected colleagues feel that the pedigree should be entirely black and tan. If you are in doubt, ask the opinion of an experienced black and tan breeder. I&#8217;ll link to a list of qualified breeders below. Be aware that many English Shepherd breeders who hang out on social networks such as Facebook will tell you another story.  Most of these folks are members of what is called the \u201cfarm collie movement\u201d. I\u2019ll explain the economic motives and emotional viewpoints of the farm collie movement at some other time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">3 Finally, Genotype can be used to help with our classification. I&#8217;m not an expert on genetics, and this isn&#8217;t a post about genetics. So, let&#8217;s stay high level for this third investigation. An Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd will always have two parents who are &#8216;AtAt&#8217; on the A Locus. And through in-depth research, we know that most of the modern males from the Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd bloodline are of two possible haplogroup\/haplotype pairs. Those pairs are A1a H1a.48 and A1a H1a.29. There may be exceptions to this, but we&#8217;re unaware of them. So, your dog&#8217;s sire should probably be of one of these two haplogroup\/haplotype pairs. You don\u2019t have to be an expert in genetics to use genotype as an investigation. You just have to pay for a test and read the report. Don\u2019t let it intimidate you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To summarize, three of the most conclusive investigations we can use to classify Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherds are genotype, phenotype, and history. In isolation, any one of these three investigations can be inconclusive. But when all three are used together, we can assert a classification with a reasonable amount of confidence. This last statement is an important point. The most accurate classifications will use all three investigations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a public service, OBTESA<span class=\"footnote_referrer\"><a role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" onclick=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_3');\" onkeypress=\"footnote_moveToReference_3041_1('footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_3');\" ><sup id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_3\" class=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text\">[3]<\/sup><\/a><span id=\"footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_3\" class=\"footnote_tooltip\">The Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd Association is a Tennessee Nonprofit Corporation founded in August of 2021<\/span><\/span><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> jQuery('#footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_3').tooltip({ tip: '#footnote_plugin_tooltip_text_3041_1_3', tipClass: 'footnote_tooltip', effect: 'fade', predelay: 0, fadeInSpeed: 200, delay: 400, fadeOutSpeed: 200, position: 'top center', relative: true, offset: [-7, 0], });<\/script> investigates and endorses breeders of Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherds. You can find that list in each edition of the OBTESA quarterly newsletter, and it is also published online here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/reports.obtesa.com\/records\/breeders\/\">https:\/\/reports.obtesa.com\/records\/breeders\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tony Bierman<br>President<br>Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd Association<\/p>\n<div class=\"speaker-mute footnotes_reference_container\"> <div class=\"footnote_container_prepare\"><p><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_label pointer\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_3041_1();\">References<\/span><span role=\"button\" tabindex=\"0\" class=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button\" style=\"display: none;\" onclick=\"footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_3041_1();\">[<a id=\"footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_3041_1\">+<\/a>]<\/span><\/p><\/div> <div id=\"footnote_references_container_3041_1\" style=\"\"><table class=\"footnotes_table footnote-reference-container\"><caption class=\"accessibility\">References<\/caption> <tbody> \r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_3041_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_1');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_1\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>1<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">International English Shepherd Registry<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_3041_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_2');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_2\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>2<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">Animal Research Foundation<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n<tr class=\"footnotes_plugin_reference_row\"> <th scope=\"row\" class=\"footnote_plugin_index_combi pointer\"  onclick=\"footnote_moveToAnchor_3041_1('footnote_plugin_tooltip_3041_1_3');\"><a id=\"footnote_plugin_reference_3041_1_3\" class=\"footnote_backlink\"><span class=\"footnote_index_arrow\">&#8593;<\/span>3<\/a><\/th> <td class=\"footnote_plugin_text\">The Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd Association is a Tennessee Nonprofit Corporation founded in August of 2021<\/td><\/tr>\r\n\r\n <\/tbody> <\/table> <\/div><\/div><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> function footnote_expand_reference_container_3041_1() { jQuery('#footnote_references_container_3041_1').show(); jQuery('#footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_3041_1').text('\u2212'); } function footnote_collapse_reference_container_3041_1() { jQuery('#footnote_references_container_3041_1').hide(); jQuery('#footnote_reference_container_collapse_button_3041_1').text('+'); } function footnote_expand_collapse_reference_container_3041_1() { if (jQuery('#footnote_references_container_3041_1').is(':hidden')) { footnote_expand_reference_container_3041_1(); } else { footnote_collapse_reference_container_3041_1(); } } function footnote_moveToReference_3041_1(p_str_TargetID) { footnote_expand_reference_container_3041_1(); var l_obj_Target = jQuery('#' + p_str_TargetID); if (l_obj_Target.length) { jQuery( 'html, body' ).delay( 0 ); jQuery('html, body').animate({ scrollTop: l_obj_Target.offset().top - window.innerHeight * 0.2 }, 380); } } function footnote_moveToAnchor_3041_1(p_str_TargetID) { footnote_expand_reference_container_3041_1(); var l_obj_Target = jQuery('#' + p_str_TargetID); if (l_obj_Target.length) { jQuery( 'html, body' ).delay( 0 ); jQuery('html, body').animate({ scrollTop: l_obj_Target.offset().top - window.innerHeight * 0.2 }, 380); } }<\/script>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In your search for an Old-fashioned Black and Tan English Shepherd, you may come across a breeder who claims to have black and tans. 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